Reg: Accounting exports

Hi,

Am going to integrate mifos with accounting integration. For that I try to export XML file from my server using “view Accounting Exports”. When I go into this, I can able to see only the latest 10 days transactions, the others i cant see. How can I view all the transactions. For me “Previous” and “Next” button also not enabled. Kindly help.

Thanks,

Karthik.

Hi Karthik,

Which version of Mifos are you using?

Regards,
Lukasz
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Hi Karthik,

I was able to reproduce issue that you described, so I created Jira

ticket for this bug: .
Best regards,
Lukasz

···

http://mifosforge.jira.com/browse/MIFOS-5687

Hi Karthik,

  Which version of Mifos are you using?



  Regards,

  Lukasz





  On 06/20/2012 09:48 AM, Karthik wrote:

Hi,
Am going to integrate mifos with accounting integration.
For that I try to export XML file from my server using “view
Accounting Exports”. When I go into this, I can able to see
only the latest 10 days transactions, the others i cant see.
How can I view all the transactions. For me “Previous” and
“Next” button also not enabled. Kindly help.

Thanks,

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Hi Lukasz,

This issue only comes if there is bulk data in the database. Kindly ensure this too.

Recommendations:

In this, View Accounting Exports we can also able to see the link for the date in which no transaction occurs. I suggest that we can enhance this by not showing this dates i.e. If the start date is 2012-04-21 and end date is 2012-06-21, and transaction happened only between Jun 1st and June 10th 2012 means, it is enough to shows these transaction dates (June 1st to June 10th) only not all the dates from start date.

Thanks,

Karthik.

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On Friday, June 22, 2012 3:13:55 PM UTC+5:30, Lukasz Chudy wrote:

Hi Karthik,

I was able to reproduce issue that you described, so I created Jira

ticket for this bug: http://mifosforge.jira.com/browse/MIFOS-5687.

Best regards,

Lukasz





On 06/22/2012 05:05 PM, Lukasz Chudy wrote:

Hi Karthik,

  Which version of Mifos are you using?



  Regards,

  Lukasz





  On 06/20/2012 09:48 AM, Karthik wrote:

Hi,
Am going to integrate mifos with accounting integration.
For that I try to export XML file from my server using “view
Accounting Exports”. When I go into this, I can able to see
only the latest 10 days transactions, the others i cant see.
How can I view all the transactions. For me “Previous” and
“Next” button also not enabled. Kindly help.

Thanks,

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Hi Karthik,

What do you mean by 'bulk data'?

I moved your suggestions to the separate improvement issue

.
Regards,
Lukasz

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Hi Lukasz,

      This issue only comes if there is bulk data in the

database. Kindly ensure this too.

Recommendations:

      In this, View Accounting Exports we can also able to

see the link for the date in which no transaction occurs. I
suggest that we can enhance this by not showing this dates
i.e. If the start date is 2012-04-21 and end date is
2012-06-21, and transaction happened only between Jun 1st and
June 10th 2012 means, it is enough to shows these transaction
dates (June 1st to June 10th) only not all the dates from
start date.

Thanks,

Karthik.

  On Friday, June 22, 2012 3:13:55 PM UTC+5:30, Lukasz Chudy wrote:

Hi Karthik,

      I was able to reproduce issue that you described, so I created

Jira ticket for this bug: http://mifosforge.jira.com/browse/MIFOS-5687.

      Best regards,

      Lukasz





      On 06/22/2012 05:05 PM, Lukasz Chudy wrote:

Hi Karthik,

        Which version of Mifos are you using?



        Regards,

        Lukasz





        On 06/20/2012 09:48 AM, Karthik wrote:

Hi,
Am going to integrate mifos with accounting
integration. For that I try to export XML file from my
server using “view Accounting Exports”. When I go into
this, I can able to see only the latest 10 days
transactions, the others i cant see. How can I view all
the transactions. For me “Previous” and “Next” button
also not enabled. Kindly help.

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Hi All,

I need some clarifications on Penalty.

  1. What is Misc Penalty and difference between Penalty and Misc Penalty

  2. Penalty transactions are not reflected in Accounting.

    For example,

         Am doing late payment of 10000 which includes
    
                 7000 -  Principal
    
                 2500 -  Interest
    
                 200   - Fees
    
                 300  - Penalty
    
     In this all the transactions have entries in financial transaction table but not penalty.
    
     Can anyone tell me the reason??
    

Thanks,

Ramya Baskar.

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  1. What is Misc Penalty and difference between Penalty and Misc Penalty

Penalty refers to automatically calculated late penalties. Misc Penalty refers one-time penalty that is manually applied.

  1. Penalty transactions are not reflected in Accounting.
 For example,
        Am doing late payment of 10000 which includes
                7000 -  Principal
                2500 -  Interest
                200   - Fees
                300  - Penalty
    In this all the transactions have entries in financial transaction table but not penalty.
    Can anyone tell me the reason??

This sounds like this could potentially be a bug that I will let Natalia try to reproduce and confirm. I wanted to clarify and make sure that the automatic penalty on the late installment has been assessed though. So the batch jobs have run and a automatic late penalty has been assessed on the installment - your issue is upon payment where the penalty transaction is not showing up in the financial transactions table.

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Hello,

I have check this issue and created ticket to fix this. You can

track status of this ticket using following link:
Natalia

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Hello,
We've managed to fix this bug.
The penalties will appear correctly in the next release of mifos.

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Hello Ramya,
I'm Michal from SolDevelo.
I'm trying to resolve your issue.

I'll need some additional data from you. Could you send me screenshots of the followings:
- the status of batch jobs view
- the account summary view
- the accounts all activity view
- financial transaction table

Was the payment made by "apply payment" or the collection sheet?

regards,
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Hello,

I have check this issue and created ticket to fix this. You can track status of this ticket using following link: https://mifosforge.jira.com/browse/MIFOS-6018

Natalia

On 03/05/2013 12:26 AM, Ed Cable wrote:

Ramya,

I will try to respond to the best of my knowledge but will let Natalia respond more thoroughly.

    1) What is Misc Penalty and difference between Penalty and Misc
    Penalty

Penalty refers to automatically calculated late penalties. Misc Penalty refers one-time penalty that is manually applied.

    2) Penalty transactions are not reflected in Accounting.
         For example,
                Am doing late payment of 10000 which includes
                        7000 - Principal
                        2500 - Interest
    200 - Fees
                        300 - Penalty
            In this all the transactions have entries in financial
    transaction table but not penalty.
            Can anyone tell me the reason??

This sounds like this could potentially be a bug that I will let Natalia try to reproduce and confirm. I wanted to clarify and make sure that the automatic penalty on the late installment has been assessed though. So the batch jobs have run and a automatic late penalty has been assessed on the installment - your issue is upon payment where the penalty transaction is not showing up in the financial transactions table.

Thanks,

Ed

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Hi all,

Am in need of clarification of write-off in Loan operations of mifos.

Write-off:

   While doing Write-off, in accounting principal only coming but in the loan operations both principal,interest and arrears are coming.

    For example,

         For a group, loan disbursal amount is 50000. The group needs to pay with interest is 60000. The group didn't pay anything and write-off has                 been done for the group. After write-off while checking the accounting,

it shown the write-off amount as 50000 only but in the loan operations it shown as 60000 with interest.

Can anyone clarify the above.

Thanks in advance!!!

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Ramya,

Mifos uses “cash” based accounting. Since the expected interest is never accounted for, interest waivers/writeoffs would not affect accounting (reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_cash_and_accrual_methods_of_accounting).

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On 16 April 2013 17:39, Ramya Baskar ramya.baskar@kumaran.com wrote:

Hi all,

Am in need of clarification of write-off in Loan operations of mifos.

Write-off:

   While doing Write-off, in accounting principal only coming but in the loan operations both principal,interest and arrears are coming.
    For example,
         For a group, loan disbursal amount is 50000. The group needs to pay with interest is 60000. The group didn't pay anything and write-off has                 been done for the group. After write-off while checking the accounting,

it shown the write-off amount as 50000 only but in the loan operations it shown as 60000 with interest.

Can anyone clarify the above.

Thanks in advance!!!


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Hello,
If accounting is on accrual basis if any account goes in write-off all booked interest income must be reversed.

Logic: because when you did not receive your principle amount, booking of interest is not a good idea.

In this case Mifos is correct.

Thanks and Regards

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Ramya,

Mifos uses “cash” based accounting. Since the expected interest is never accounted for, interest waivers/writeoffs would not affect accounting (reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_cash_and_accrual_methods_of_accounting).

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On 16 April 2013 17:39, Ramya Baskar ramya.baskar@kumaran.com wrote:

Hi all,

Am in need of clarification of write-off in Loan operations of mifos.

Write-off:

   While doing Write-off, in accounting principal only coming but in the loan operations both principal,interest and arrears are coming.
    For example,
         For a group, loan disbursal amount is 50000. The group needs to pay with interest is 60000. The group didn't pay anything and write-off has                 been done for the group. After write-off while checking the accounting,

it shown the write-off amount as 50000 only but in the loan operations it shown as 60000 with interest.

Can anyone clarify the above.

Thanks in advance!!!


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I agree that while write-off principle amount only will be considered. In accounting it is coming fine, but in account_payment table,account_trxn table both principle and interest is coming. Can u clarify me on this?

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Mifos uses “cash” based accounting. Since the expected interest is never accounted for, interest waivers/writeoffs would not affect accounting (reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_cash_and_accrual_methods_of_accounting).

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On 16 April 2013 17:39, Ramya Baskar ramya.baskar@kumaran.com wrote:

Hi all,

Am in need of clarification of write-off in Loan operations of mifos.

Write-off:

   While doing Write-off, in accounting principal only coming but in the loan operations both principal,interest and arrears are coming.
    For example,
         For a group, loan disbursal amount is 50000. The group needs to pay with interest is 60000. The group didn't pay anything and write-off has                 been done for the group. After write-off while checking the accounting,

it shown the write-off amount as 50000 only but in the loan operations it shown as 60000 with interest.

Can anyone clarify the above.

Thanks in advance!!!


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    I have one more doubt on write-off case. Shall we do write-off for the ongoing loans?
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Ramya,

Mifos uses “cash” based accounting. Since the expected interest is never accounted for, interest waivers/writeoffs would not affect accounting (reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_cash_and_accrual_methods_of_accounting).

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On 16 April 2013 17:39, Ramya Baskar ramya.baskar@kumaran.com wrote:

Hi all,

Am in need of clarification of write-off in Loan operations of mifos.

Write-off:

   While doing Write-off, in accounting principal only coming but in the loan operations both principal,interest and arrears are coming.
    For example,
         For a group, loan disbursal amount is 50000. The group needs to pay with interest is 60000. The group didn't pay anything and write-off has                 been done for the group. After write-off while checking the accounting,

it shown the write-off amount as 50000 only but in the loan operations it shown as 60000 with interest.

Can anyone clarify the above.

Thanks in advance!!!


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Looks like, this is not intended for me.

Raj

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From: Ramya Baskar [mailto:ramya.baskar@kumaran.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:00 PM
To: A good place to start for users or folks new to Mifos.
Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Reg: Write-off and reschedule in mifos

Hi All,

    I have one more doubt on write-off case. Shall we do write-off for the ongoing loans?

----- Original Message -----

From: Ramya Baskar

To: A good place to start for users or folks new to Mifos.

Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Reg: Write-off and reschedule in mifos

Thanks all.

I agree that while write-off principle amount only will be considered. In accounting it is coming fine, but in account_payment table,account_trxn table both principle and interest is coming. Can u clarify me on this?

----- Original Message -----

From: AMIT JAIN

To: A good place to start for users or folks new to Mifos.

Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:12 AM

Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Reg: Write-off and reschedule in mifos

Hello,

If accounting is on accrual basis if any account goes in write-off all booked interest income must be reversed.

Logic: because when you did not receive your principle amount, booking of interest is not a good idea.

In this case Mifos is correct.

Thanks and Regards

AMIT

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Vishwas Babu vishwasbabuaj@gmail.com wrote:

Ramya,

Mifos uses “cash” based accounting. Since the expected interest is never accounted for, interest waivers/writeoffs would not affect accounting (reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_cash_and_accrual_methods_of_accounting).

Regards,

Vishwas

On 16 April 2013 17:39, Ramya Baskar ramya.baskar@kumaran.com wrote:

Hi all,

Am in need of clarification of write-off in Loan operations of mifos.

Write-off:

   While doing Write-off, in accounting principal only coming but in the loan operations both principal,interest and arrears are coming.
    For example,
        For a group, loan disbursal amount is 50000. The group needs to pay with interest is 60000. The group didn't pay anything and write-off has                 been done for the group. After write-off while checking the accounting, it shown the write-off amount as 50000 only but in the loan operations it shown as 60000 with interest.

Can anyone clarify the above.

Thanks in advance!!!


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Hello Ramya,
I'm Michal from SolDevelo.
I'm trying to resolve your issue.

I'll need some additional data from you. Could you send me screenshots of the followings:
- the status of batch jobs view
- the account summary view
- the accounts all activity view
- financial transaction table

Was the payment made by "apply payment" or the collection sheet?

regards,
Michal

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On 05.04.2013 11:42, Natalia Szprega wrote:

Hello,

I have check this issue and created ticket to fix this. You can track status of this ticket using following link: https://mifosforge.jira.com/browse/MIFOS-6018

Natalia

On 03/05/2013 12:26 AM, Ed Cable wrote:

Ramya,

I will try to respond to the best of my knowledge but will let Natalia respond more thoroughly.

    1) What is Misc Penalty and difference between Penalty and Misc
    Penalty

Penalty refers to automatically calculated late penalties. Misc Penalty refers one-time penalty that is manually applied.

    2) Penalty transactions are not reflected in Accounting.
         For example,
                Am doing late payment of 10000 which includes
                        7000 - Principal
                        2500 - Interest
                        200 - Fees
                        300 - Penalty
            In this all the transactions have entries in financial
    transaction table but not penalty.
            Can anyone tell me the reason??

This sounds like this could potentially be a bug that I will let Natalia try to reproduce and confirm. I wanted to clarify and make sure that the automatic penalty on the late installment has been assessed though. So the batch jobs have run and a automatic late penalty has been assessed on the installment - your issue is upon payment where the penalty transaction is not showing up in the financial transactions table.

Thanks,

Ed

    Thanks,
    Ramya Baskar.

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